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Post  Jo on Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:41 pm

As we are getting a lot of people from different countries, I thought it would be interesting to hear how dogs in different countries earn these titles and perhaps how important they are.

In the UK we have the title champion this is won by gaining 3 challenge certificates from 3 different judges, the final CC must be won after the dog is 12 months old. A CC is given to the best dog and best bitch in breed (so long as the judge thinks the dog is champion quality)

Junior Warrant dog carries the letters 'JW' after their name. This is won between 6 months (the youngest we can show a puppy) and 18 months old. The dog needs to get 25 points. 3 points come from a class win at a championship show with at least 2 other dogs in the class, 1 point from a class win (with 2 other dogs in the class) at an open show (where the breed doesn't have CC's on offer) or 1 point for winning Best of Breed at an open show. In the UK you can enter as many classes as you like in the breed that your dog is eligable for.

Show Certificate of Merit dog carries the letters 'ShCM' after their name. This is won only at open shows. The dog needs to win 25 points. There is 1 point for Best of Breed (or Best any variety not separetly classified), then you can win another 1 point for placing 4th in group, 2 points for 3rd in group, 3 points for 2nd in group or 4 points for winning the group. Best In show earns another 5 points


The champion title is the one everyone one would like to earn. The junior warrant is also a difficult title to win, only 5 minis won it in 2007, more champions gained their title that year!!


I forgot to mention. In the UK all colours compete together (at the moment the white colour is not part of our breed standard but it can and is still shown)


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Post  MsBritmor on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:06 pm

In the U.S., we only have the AKC Championship title (although we do have a few International and United Kennel Club shows here which offer their own championship titles).

The AKC championship title requires 15 points, including 2 majors won under different judges and at least one point under a third (different) judge. The number of points earned at each show is dependent on the number of dogs defeated on that day, and this will vary depending on the area of the country (some areas regularly have larger entries than others). A major is 3, 4, or 5 points, and a dog can never earn over 5 points at any one show. Points are awarded in the Winners Dog and Winners Bitch classes, although a dog *could* earn more points if he beats more dogs, such as by going Best of Breed.... but again, he can never earn more than five points.

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Re: Show Titles

Post  RaagasHeartKennel on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:41 pm

Well Karen we just follow the ruling of AKC,Same in our Country
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Post  RaggaGisla on Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:37 pm

Here in Iceland the miniature has to have 3 CC to become an Icelandic Champion (IsCH). And all 3 from 3 different nationality jugdes. And the last one has to come after the age of 24 months.
For the international Champion a dog needs only 4 from 3 different nationality judges, one year needs to be from the first to the last CACIB. And a dog that is enterd in the junior class (9-18 month) can´t get the CACIB. Or a dog in the olders class.. sorry forgot the word for that class.

The Giant Schnauzer also need working test, but we dont have IPO or Schutzhund so the dog has to finish Mentaltest (swedish MH), brosnztest (basic obedience) and a tracking test. And there are the same rules as whit the mini.. 3 CC from 3 different nationality judges and also has to finishe the working tests.

This is all because of the quarantine here in Iceland.. and we only have 3 shows per. year.. Rolling Eyes but hopfully next year we will have some more Very Happy

Esther will maybe correct me if I´m wrong in anything..
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Post  Jo on Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:52 pm

I think you mean 'veteran' class for the older dogs? Over here a dog is a veteran from 7 years old. It can still compete in the other normal classes and a dog can still win a CC from veteran.


Can someone explain what the difference is between a CAC and a CACIB, do they both count towards a title in your own country? Does one count towards an international title but not your own country title??
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Post  RaggaGisla on Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:00 pm

Jo wrote:I think you mean 'veteran' class for the older dogs? Over here a dog is a veteran from 7 years old. It can still compete in the other normal classes and a dog can still win a CC from veteran.
Yes that the word I was looking for Very Happy.
A dog here in Iceland can only be showned in one class. For example a veteran can not be in open class and veteran class. And in veteran class he can not get a CC or a CACIB. But he can be BOB.

Jo wrote:Can someone explain what the difference is between a CAC and a CACIB, do they both count towards a title in your own country? Does one count towards an international title but not your own country title??
CAC and CACIB don´t count both towards ISch and INTch here.
You have to have 3 CAC to become a ISch and 4 cacib for INTch.

Unless the dog is already a nordic champion, danishc then he only needs one Icelandic CAC to become ISch.
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Post  Jo on Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:14 pm

Do the 4 CACIB have to be won in 4 different countries to gain the Int title?
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Post  RaggaGisla on Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:25 pm

No just from 3 judges from 3 different counters, because of the quarantine here in Iceland.

Like, one from a judge from Ireland, one from a judge from Germany, one from a judge from Sweden and the last can come from either a judge from Ireland, Germany, Sweden or another counter
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Post  Rianne on Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:43 pm

In the Netherlands:

for Dutch young champion you must have 3 JCAC. You get a JCAC if you be placed at the first place in the young class. So you must be placed three times at the first place in the period from 9 months till 18 month.

For Dutch champion you must have 4 CAC. From at least two different judge. The last CAC must you get after the 27 month.
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Post  Olga on Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:08 pm

May be in Iceland the rules permit to won all CACIB in that country because of quaranine, but in Spain you need CACIBs from at least 3 different countries to obtain the title of INT. CH., so to receive this title we have to move the dogs in the rings of France, Portugal, Gibraltar, etc. Then one detail more, the dog who is CH/JCH of one FCI country can become the CH/JCH of another FCI country (if they have an agreement) winning only one special show. Right now I don´t remember the whole list of these countries, but there are a lot of them.
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Post  captroy on Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:24 am

POLISH CHAMPION,to become- a dog has to be awarded CWC three times, by three different judges. At least one CWC must be awarded at either International or Club Show. The minimal period of 6 months is required between the first and the last CWC.
CWC may be awarded both to a male and a female, aged minimum 15 months, graded excellent and placed 1st in any of the following classes: Intermediate, Open, Utility and Champion, regardless of the actual number of entries.

POLISH JUNIOR CHAMPION is granted to a dog that has been graded excellent 1st in Junior Class and awarded the Junior Winner tittle (at judge's discretion) three times by three different judges. At least one Junior Winner tittle must be awarded at either International or Club Show. No time limits apply.
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Post  ravenstot on Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:04 am

Finnish Champion

3 CAC from 3 different judges. At least 1 CAC has to be after 2 years old.

We have only 1 CAC for all males (including juniors and veterans) and same for females.

In Finland there are no Junior Champion. Usually there is no BIS junior neither BIS puppy competition, if it is not mentioned separately.
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Czech Championship/Slovak CHampionship

Post  Xana on Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:59 pm

the rules in Czech and SLovakia are the same.

Adult championship: 4x CAC from two show seasons. Two must be from International Dog Shows. CAC can be obtained from Intermediate, Open, Working, Champion class. If the winner of CAC is already champion of the cuntry and the Excellent 2 dog in the class receives res. CAC, then is his/her res. CAC considered as CAC.
In Slovakia can be one CAC replaced by 3x res. CAC (only 1 of 4 CACs can be replaced this way)
Junior Championship: 3x CAJC obtained from junior class (9-18 months). One of these CAJCs can be replaced by CAC from adult class
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titles in the Philippines

Post  kahlua on Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:57 am

RaagasHeartKennel wrote:Well Karen we just follow the ruling of AKC,Same in our Country

In addition, the titles at stake in the Philippines are the following:

Philippine Champion - You need to get 15 points, of those 15 points, there must be 2 major wins earned under 3 different judges.

Philippine Grand Champion - You need to get 25 points after the Philippine Championship and 3 Majors are needed.

Hall of Fame - 100 Points are needed after the Championship and also 4 Group placements is required.

(as posted in http://forum.dog-tracker.com/YaBB.pl?num=1203904010)


The 1st miniature schnauzer to achieve the Philippine Hall of Fame title is Am Ch Regency's Name of the Game.
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Hungarian Champion

Post  mzyan on Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:16 pm

I write this champion title, if somebody interest. Smile

Hungarian Junior Champion
3 X HPJ obtained from junior class (9-18 months) and from 2 diffrent judges - 1 HPJ from international or club show
Hungarian Champion
Breeds not subject to working trials - 4 X CAC from 3 diffrent judges (intermediate, open class) - 2 CAC from international or club show. The first CAC and the last CAC between 1 year and 1 day.
Breeds subject to working trials - 3 X CAC from 2 diffrent judges (intermediate, open, work class) - 1 CAC from international or club show. The first CAC and the last CAC between 1 year and 1 day. + working trial
Hungarian Show Champion
It isn't yet!!!
Hungarian Grand Champion
If the dog's HCH then 4 X ChCAC from 1 X BOB.
Veteran Hungarian Champion
3 X CAC in veteran class from 2 diffrent judges - 1 CAC from international or club show
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Post  Jo on Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:42 pm

Thank you all for contributing, it is interesting to see the different ways to gain a title and the different titles you can win with a dog during its life.
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Italian Championship

Post  Faberjanus on Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:22 am

In Italy to get the title of Italian Beauty Champion from ENCI (Italian Kennel Club) you have to obtain 6 CAC of which 2 in National Dog Shows, 2 in International Dog Shows and 2 (1 for giants) in club show (special or monografica). Only one CAC for each sex and only in open class for Minies and Standard Schnauzer and only in working class for the Giants (starting from January the 1st 2009 1 CAC will be released respectively in Open, Intermediate and Working for all the sizes. Besides this you have also to pass the selection test that consist of a morphologic test, a temperament test including defence trials, HIP dysplasia x-ray and genetic sample deposit.

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Brazil

Post  Ana on Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:08 pm

Here we have:
Initial Champion (Campeão Inicial) - puppies from 4 to 6 months old - with 2 CCI.
Puppy Champion (Campeão Filhote) - puppies from 6 to 9 months old - with 3 CCF.
Junior Champion (Campeão Jovem) - dogs from 9 to 15 months - with 4 CCJ.
Champion (Campeão) - up to 15 months - with 5 CAC to female and 7 CAC to males.
Panamerican Champion (Campeão Panamericano) - up to 15 months - with 4 CACPAB to females and 5 CACPAB to males.
Gran Champion (Grande Campeão) - up to 15 months and the brasilian champion title - 50 points to females and 70 points to males with 5 different judges.
Panamerican Gran Champion (Grande Campeão Panamericano) - up to 15 months and the Panamerican Champion title - 10 CACPAB to males and 8 CACPAB to females with different judges and 3 from other countries.
International Champion - dogs up to 15 months - 4 CACIB with 4 different judges from different countries and more than 12 months betwen the first and the last.
National Junior Winner - dogs from 9 to 15 months - with 3 Junior Best in Show with 3 different judges and 3 different states in Brazil.
National Winner - dogs up to 15 months - with 4 BIS with 4 different judges and 4 different states in Brazil.
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Post  Ana on Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:10 pm

Unfortunately, in Brazil we do the health tests because we want, for the Kennel Club doesn´t matter the health. :-(
This is very bad and wrong here.
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Post  FiJu on Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:41 pm

Hello,
this topic is very interest.
so different ways to champions.
in germany we have 2 champion titles. VDH Champion and PSK Champion. for VDH champion you need 5 CAC´s who are 3 CAC´s from national or international shows under least 3 different judges

for PSK champion you need also 5 CAC´s but from club shows. also at least 3 different judges
for both titles must be 1 year and 1 day between the first CAC up to the latest CAC...

greetings Holger
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Post  jellun on Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:17 pm

I will add about German Champion PSK
it doesnt matter level of shows (International, National, Specialty):

1) 5 class wins (CAC-PSK) + SA (excellent grade on *JahresSieger*- special show held once per year) from 4 (?) different judges
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2) 6 class wins (CAC-PSK) from 6 different judges
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Champion in France

Post  des matins de cristal on Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:08 pm

For France :
3 CAC :
- one CAC in the france shampoin ship or of the kennel show (so 2 chances par year)
- one CAC in an international show
- one on a show with a specialy of breed
between the first and the last cacs maximun 2 years.

For mini's : eyes clear
for medium : TAN
for giants : TAN, CSAU and x ray !

One CAC by sex but one for open and intemediale class. No cac on champion class.
The schnauzer have no young champion reconize but when a young finish first on junior class, on the france champion ship ou the kennel show we say : "young champion"

I wish no error with my bad english ...
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Post  Olga on Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:24 pm

- one CAC in the france shampoin ship or of the kennel show (so 2 chances par year)
Please, could you explain more about these shows. As far as I understans one is like obligatory point (this year Paris in June), but the other??? When and where these shows will be? Wink
And about eye tests: should it be done by any authorized french specialist or we can do it with our vet in Spain? Any limits in time or age?
We like to compete in France and we´d like to finish the championship
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Post  AnnaD on Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:30 pm

RaggaGisla wrote:Here in Iceland the miniature has to have 3 CC to become an Icelandic Champion (IsCH). And all 3 from 3 different nationality jugdes. And the last one has to come after the age of 24 months.
For the international Champion a dog needs only 4 from 3 different nationality judges, one year needs to be from the first to the last CACIB. And a dog that is enterd in the junior class (9-18 month) can´t get the CACIB. Or a dog in the olders class.. sorry forgot the word for that class.

The Giant Schnauzer also need working test, but we dont have IPO or Schutzhund so the dog has to finish Mentaltest (swedish MH), brosnztest (basic obedience) and a tracking test. And there are the same rules as whit the mini.. 3 CC from 3 different nationality judges and also has to finishe the working tests.

This is all because of the quarantine here in Iceland.. and we only have 3 shows per. year.. Rolling Eyes but hopfully next year we will have some more Very Happy

Esther will maybe correct me if I´m wrong in anything..

There are no requirement of working test for the miniature here in Iceland......and not by FCI either.....The miniatuer does not have to finish MH, tracking or basic obediense in order to get ISCH or INTCH
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Post  des matins de cristal on Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:35 pm

Yes it's a obligatory point : the france champion ship in june in Paris or in the kennel show, for this year this show may be near Marseilles, in the south of france, only one kennel show by year as the france champion ship.
for eyes clear we must do it with vetenuary attested by the Klub, for dogs comming an other country i don't know but i can asked about it !
about the age, no minimun as the dog is on intermedial or adult class but only 2 years for have the 3 cacs for have the title ! it's differents from the other conutry as it's minimun one year and one day !
is it clear ??
sorry for my bad english ...
but send questions, i will try to answer as i can !!!
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