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Post  ambientart on Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:01 pm

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Re: Makes me sad

Post  blacknwhite on Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:55 pm

Zvergushka wrote:Unfortunately I only simple owner and don't know schnauzers breeders personally, I know only names of kennels, but in airedales I know nothing
But I think that it is necessary to inform all breeders, especially these two breeds that they will understand true face of that people
I did not know of them either until mentioned in this awful saga but by telling others about this atrocity is the only way to make them realise the severity of what they have done.
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Re: Makes me sad

Post  Alexandra on Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:19 pm

Look at these two beings, are friendly now, do not call them animals, but beings, are already changing the name of their kennel, no longer in her name but on behalf of him! Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Makes me sad

Post  blacknwhite on Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:15 pm

obviously they realise they are in for a bumpy ride and are trying to get round problems!
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Post  MARANT on Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:47 pm

Alexandra wrote:Look at these two beings, are friendly now, do not call them animals, but beings, are already changing the name of their kennel, no longer in her name but on behalf of him! Evil or Very Mad


And what is the difference und reason? scratch
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Re: Makes me sad

Post  Jazmin on Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:50 pm

What a shame!
They must lose their license for breeding

Evil or Very Mad
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Post  Jazmin on Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:46 am

I found information about airedale-dog if on fildale.net is true, his name JOVAL LEAP OF FAITH http://jovalairedales.com/JovalLeapOfFaith.htm

Breeders Dr. Valeria Rickard & John Rickard
vrickard@JovalAiredales.com

I suppose as write to KSS as right thing to write them, inform about to what kind of people they sell their dog
I write e-mail to Dr. Valeria Rickard & John Rickard
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Re: Makes me sad

Post  Myltan on Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:02 pm

Any more news on this topic??

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Re: Makes me sad

Post  blacknwhite on Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:53 pm

well i never received a reply to the e-mail i sent them so i have no idea scratch
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Post  Zvergushka on Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:24 pm

No answers to my emails too.

And friends told me that Elena Gligorijevic buying new puppy in russian kennel Panomaks (http://panomaks.sitecity.ru/)

Poor little puppy what's people think if they sell him to these humans

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Re: Makes me sad

Post  Alexandra on Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:14 am

This message is posted with the written permission of Mrs. Valeria Rickard

Hello,
My name is Valeria Rickard and I am the owner of Joval Airedale Kennel in USA
and breeder of Am Ch Joval Leap of Faith. I have sold this dog last December on co-ownership terms to
Elena Potoman of Fildale kennel in Serbia, she breeds Airedales and Schnauzers.
I am not sure if everybody has heard of an unfortunate death of 3 young schnauzers
belonging to Elena Potoman, it happened during the World dog show in Bratislava when she left them in locked car
without water or air conditioning on a quite hot day. These animals died of heat stroke.
I feel so sorry for those innocent animals and I have tremendous fear for the well-being of my dog who is currently in her care.
It is a very difficult image for me to get out of my head of potentially my dead dog, as this is what would have happened
if schnausers were shown ahead of Airedales.
I am a veterinarian by profession and unfortunately have to deal with similar cases at work,
and it is a horrible way to die from multi organ failure.
I feel so bad for entrusting my dog into her care and this is a lesson that i have to live with for the rest of my life.

She is also in violation in our sales contract. She has not paid me the full price for this dog
and it's been almost a year. All I keep getting are empty promises. Based on the terms of our legal and notarized agreement,
since she is in violation of the contract, by law, she has to return the dog back to me, but she is refusing to do so.

This letter is not to bother people with the problems that i am having with Elena,
but to warn good people out there to be aware of her behavior as she has no morals and ethics.
If you are concerned about the well-being of your animals, please do not sell her any dogs or puppies.
And also do not enter into any financial agreements with her (she can be very persuasive and make you feel sorry for her, like I did)
and do not loan her money, as you will never see it back.

I don't care about her paying me back for the dog, I don't care what it will cost to get him back.
I have hired an attorney in Belgrade and I am trying my hardest to get my dog returned safely back home.
If you care about your animals, learn from my unfortunate mistake and please be aware of this person!!!
Thank you for reading my post.
Sincerely,
Valeria Rickard
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Re: Makes me sad

Post  Alexandra on Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:17 am

Russian version

Zaranee izvenyaus za oshibki, ploxoi rysskii i dliny etovo soobsheniya.
Menya zovyt Valeria Rickard, y menya pitomnik erdelei Joval i ya zavodchik i sovladelets Am CH Joval Leap Of Faith (Ostina).
Ya vizhy shto yzhe neskol'ko lydei pisali pro Leny Potoman i po raznim povodam i prichinam .
Mnogo lydei znaut pro smert' trex tsergov shnautserov kotorix ona ostavila v zakritoi mashine pri zhare vo vremya vistavki v Bratislave i pro smert' ee vosmiletvevo erdelya Chibi za pary mesyatsev do etovo.
Mne bezymno zhalko etix neschastnix zhivotnix kotorie doverili svoiy shizn' v ryki Leni.
Ya tak zhe ne mogy perestat bymat' o tom shto eto mog bi bit' metrvim moi Ostin esli bi tsvergi vistavlyalis do erdelei.
Ya veterinar po professii, i k sozhaleniu po rabote mne inogda prixoditsya Iechit podobnie slychai (kotorie prakticheski vsegda ymiraut yzhasnoi no bistroi smertiu ot polnovo otkaza prokticheski vsex organov tela), i ya ne mogy ybrat iz moei golovi kartiny mertvovo Ostina! I ya sebe prostit' ne mogy, shto ya doverela moiu sobaky takim ludyam!

Ya ochen' sil'no perezhivaiu za Ostina i bezymno xochy evo obratno vernyt', vsvyazi so vsemi etimi neschastnimi slychayami mnogokratnix smertei ee drygix sobak, plus ona naryshili nash ofitsial'nii podpisannii kontrakt i ne zaplatili polnyiu symy deneg za nevo. Ostin prodolzhaet yavlaytsya moei sobstvennostiu i moe zhelanie evo vernyt polnostiu zakonno.

Ya kak normal'nii chelovek (xotya menay moi myzh predyprezhdal i ygovarival ne doveryat i ne vlezat v ety avantury) pitalas podderzhivat normal'nie chelovecheskie otnoshenia, poverela Lena i ee myzhy Zorany i vstypila s nimi v dogovor o prodazhe Ostina. Ya im razreshila rastyanyt' srok rasplati za Ostina na 6 mesyatsev, do maiya 2009 goda. Snachala ya xotela eto sdelat tol'ko do fevralya, no ona menya ygovorila shto bi ya vnikla i ponyala ee sityatsiu i dala ei bol'she vremeni do Maiya dlya prodazhe shenkov.
Seichas yzhe konets noyabrya i proshel pochti god, i ona vse eshe ne viplatila polnyiu stoimost' Ostina.

Na osnove nachevo podpisannovo i notarizirovannovo kontrakta, po zakony, tak kak etot ona kontrakt ne vipolnila, ona obyazana Ostina mne obratno vernyt.
Nashi s nei dlinnie razgovori na protezhenii poslednevo mesyatsa ne priveli ni k chemy. Ona ne v sostoyanii ponyat' naskol'ko ona neporyadochno sebya vedet i kak ona ne prava v etoi sityatsii. Iz-za etoi neobyazatel'nosti i pystix nevipolnenix obeshanii, a samoie glavnoe, iz-za tovo shto ya bezymno volnyus' za blagopolychie i zhizn' Ostina, mne prishlos nanyat' advokata i nachat sydebnoe delo protiv nee shtobi vernyt moiu sobaky obratno. (Ya vse eshe yavlyaus' evo vladeltsem na osnove ofitsial'nix dokymentov iz kennel klyba ). Vi sebe predstavit ne mozhete kak ya sebya vinu, shto ya doverela Lene i razreshila Ostiny tyda poexat. Eto mne yrok na vse ostavshyusya zhiz'n!

Glavnaiya syt' eto dlinnovo pis'ma zaklychaetsya ne v tom kakie y menya voznikli s nei problemi, tak kak ya ponimaiu shto chestno govorya eto nikovo sil'no ne kasaetsya i navernoe ne volnyet, tak kak y vsex syshestvyiut svoi volneniya i problemi v zhizni .
No ya xochy predypredit' vsex lydei kotorix ya smogy dostich po internety, shto Lene i Zorany Gligorijevic/Potoman nel'zya doveryat'.
Esli vi volnyetes' za blagopolychie i zhizn' vashix zhivotnix, Ne prodavaite ei nikakix shenkov ili sobak.
I samoe glavnoe, ne vstypaite ni v kakie finansivie dela, ne odalzhivaete ei deneg, tak kak vi v itoge sami postradaete za svoe doveree, kak i slychilos v moem slychae. Mne prixodyat seichas pis'ma ot takix zhe postradavshix ludei kak i ya, kotorim ona ne vernyla den'gi.

Pozhalyista byd'te ostorozhni i bditel'ni v obsheniyax s etimi lyd'mi !!!!!!!!
i tak zhe rasprostranite ety informatsuy po vse vozmozhnim istochnikam/forymam, shto bi predypredit maximal'noe kolichestvo lydei.
Spasibo za chtenie moevo soobsheniya.

Lera Rickard


www.JovalAiredales.com
+01(703)754-1922
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Re: Makes me sad

Post  snasapjasa on Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:12 pm

Im so sorry to read this.
Hopefully your dog will be returned in the safety of your home soon.
Good luck.
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Re: Makes me sad

Post  des matins de cristal on Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:55 pm

i hope you can have your dog and quickly !
Very bad peaople ....
Good luck
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